Well I must admit I never really liked being referred to as " brother" and I am even less pleased with currently being referred to as " an apostate". So much for the " brotherly" love.
The Rebel.
since waking up i find i am bridling at being called 'sister'.
but it feels like an identity that is being forced on me.. i feel like shouting "i have a name you know!".
it is just me or does anyone else recognise this?.
Well I must admit I never really liked being referred to as " brother" and I am even less pleased with currently being referred to as " an apostate". So much for the " brotherly" love.
The Rebel.
wow shall i start with classic books and films?
no let's start with t.v and what was never high culture- " confederate flag gets dukes of hazard yanked" .
ok this was just entertainment to me, that i never recall being racist.
Secretslaveclass " perhaps I'll wind up living in the Amazon". May I suggest Fitzcaraldo to you in which Klause Kinski, brings Opera to the Amazon. A brilliant Wernor Herzog movie.
Back on topic, times and the English usage change and I totally agree the " n " word is offensive now, but at the time Tom and Huck were written it was not used as a racial slur. However why I write, is I have just finished flicking on my remote trying to find an action and adventure show to watch, it's so depressing " F" this and " F" that. Every character a low life and aggressive. I could go on about what the real " talents" needed of an actress in these shows are,but let's end with the observation that most of these modern action and adventure shows would never have been able to get on air in my day, and I can't help but wishing that were the case today.
The Rebel.
just wanted to talk about two odd df'ing experiences i had; which gave me the 'personal' lesson that there are some in the wt who are definitely not militants when it comes to the whole disfellowshipping regime... .
passing ships in the night - the irony.
quite a while back, a brother turned up at my last congregation, he came to a few meetings and then i didn't see him for several weeks, and all of a sudden comes the announcement, he got df'd.
I seriously believe many in the organisation could no more individually shun a person than they would physically hurt another. Of course when in a group, and the group mentality takes over, it always amazes me how many compromise their own independent moral and ethical principals. But I have noted similar behaviour since I was a child at school, and it continues in the work place today.
Even when I was in good standing, I noted the congregation had its pack of wolves waiting to pounce, I used to pity them, now I am just glad I no longer have regular contact with them.
The Rebel
wow shall i start with classic books and films?
no let's start with t.v and what was never high culture- " confederate flag gets dukes of hazard yanked" .
ok this was just entertainment to me, that i never recall being racist.
Wow shall I start with classic books and films? No let's start with T.V and what was never high culture- " Confederate flag gets Dukes of Hazard yanked" . Ok this was just entertainment to me, that I never recall being racist. Personally it offends me that they remove if from T.V.
Before we move on to " high culture" let's stick with T.V and " The Tom and Jerry Show" This cartoon series has been banned because its racist and too violent-what next Bugs Bunny?
Here is a great website " Banned Books Awareness and Reading for Knowledge Website" please check it out,this list of books is incredible " Tom Saywer" " Huck Finn" and I must mention " Gone with the wind" as we also have talk of banning the movie.
Personally I don't think any book should be Banned,Its ridiculous, so thankfully we have the ALA office for intellectual freedom which records hundreds of attempts by individuals and groups to have books removed from our libraries and class rooms.
Was what i have written offensive to you, or do I have a point this banning of our past, our entertainment and our classic literature is ridiculous?
Thanks for reading.
The Rebel.
so i was fooled by the witnesses.
what can i learn from that?
not to accept things at face value but to seek out opinion and different view points.. hence my question " do you believe man landed on the moon?.
Well I can put this matter to bed once and for all simply purchase my " Moon Binoculars"
With their amazing precision lense, they are perfect for viewing the " American Flag" on the moon, If you are not a moon buff, they are also ideal for spies, voyeurs and perverts.
Fantastic value- and if you are not fully satisfied please send them back within 14 days, I won't be the least bit hurt ( as long as I can keep YOUR money)
The Rebel.
so i was fooled by the witnesses.
what can i learn from that?
not to accept things at face value but to seek out opinion and different view points.. hence my question " do you believe man landed on the moon?.
Well shortly after the " moon landing" American Airlines announced they were planning on future commercial trips to the moon. I believe more recently Richard Branson had similar ideas.
The Rebel.
so i was fooled by the witnesses.
what can i learn from that?
not to accept things at face value but to seek out opinion and different view points.. hence my question " do you believe man landed on the moon?.
The Rebel ( Q ) " can you present any evidence man landed on the moon?"
Viviane ( A ) " yep, I can show evidence. What's your point?
Now the irony.
freemanfade " Moonlanding agnostic over here. something happened in 1969 involving the moon. I'am just not sure what"
Viviane ( Q ) "what evidence have you looked at?
If I were to answer on " freemanfade's" behalf :-
( A )" Yep, I can show the evidence.Whats your point?
......oh the irony, but I must say it's great to know that Viv has some fascinating information which can prove that man landed on the moon, and I must apologise for the sneaky, unprincipled way I asked her to reveal it, which was by way of a direct question.
The Rebel.
hi i am delighted to be apart of the community.. having left the witnesses one of my first challenges was my believe in god.
naturally.. i have concluded that i am alive and conscious.
now my intuition tells me god exists, but my analytical thinking tells me god does not exist.
Well maybe my days are numbered, I realise by questioning Gods organisation I will cease to exist. This is the punishment for an indoctrinated witness who questions their faith ( I mean organisation) But that's what I did, I committed the unforgivable sin, I questioned Jehovers " spirit directed organisation"
I discover they believe the bible is the exact word of God, and then change it....and I have so many unresolvable problems with this organisation, that I am sure I made the correct decision to leave....as for God I think that's an unresolvable problem, I call him/ her a mystery, and the truth is I really no longer give a shit anymore.....life is to be lived and enjoyed today.
The Rebel
so i was fooled by the witnesses.
what can i learn from that?
not to accept things at face value but to seek out opinion and different view points.. hence my question " do you believe man landed on the moon?.
The Rebel ( Q ) " Can you present any evidence man landed on the moon?
Viv: ( A ) " YES"
I am off to bed now, but may I offer my warmest condolences to anybody that reads these 17 pages. Personally i think my time would have been better spent mixed up with some immoral woman, but then again we all know what that can lead to:
The Rebel
so i was fooled by the witnesses.
what can i learn from that?
not to accept things at face value but to seek out opinion and different view points.. hence my question " do you believe man landed on the moon?.
Well this thread Barrold Bonds got this long, because we have a poster who claims she can prove man landed on the moon. As I hope her evidence is a little stronger than your comment " Man landed on the moon end of story. If you don't believe that you are a fucking idiot........" I have been pushing Viv for this evidence.
kind regards
The Rebel